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Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World

Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World

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  • Create Date：2021-10-17 07:19:05
  • Update Date：2025-09-07
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  • Author：Benjamin Alire Sáenz
  • ISBN：B08WH8MFYS
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Reviews

Румяна ，

When I reviewed Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe， I didn't mention that the main reason that I fell in love with the in the very beginning was Ari。 He was so confused by the world and lived in his own head most of the time， and spent so much time in thinking， and was so sad sometimes。 I thought of him as my brother in soul or my best friend who understands me。In the sequel， he has finally found his own voice and learns how to love yourself not only his friends and his fam When I reviewed Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe， I didn't mention that the main reason that I fell in love with the in the very beginning was Ari。 He was so confused by the world and lived in his own head most of the time， and spent so much time in thinking， and was so sad sometimes。 I thought of him as my brother in soul or my best friend who understands me。In the sequel， he has finally found his own voice and learns how to love yourself not only his friends and his family。 He struggles to live in the world with people he loves not only in his mind with his thoughts。 The book is incredible in its beauty and ugliness。 It is about love， hate， friendship， family， loss， growing， 。。。I don't know why I even try to describe and review this book！ I don't think I can write something that is appropriate enough。 Just 。。。 If someone read this， please， read the book regardless what are your preferences about books。 It really could help all of us to learn to be humans。 。。。more

Emma ，

I don't know how to rate this。 I'm conflicted。 Aristotle and Dante discover the secrets of the universe has been my favorite book when I was a teenager。 And now， reading the sequel。。。 I felt like something was amiss。 Before giving it a rating， I'll probably reread it。 Maybe I wasn't in the mood， maybe I grew out of the YA genre， I don't know。 I don't want to give up on it。 I don't know how to rate this。 I'm conflicted。 Aristotle and Dante discover the secrets of the universe has been my favorite book when I was a teenager。 And now， reading the sequel。。。 I felt like something was amiss。 Before giving it a rating， I'll probably reread it。 Maybe I wasn't in the mood， maybe I grew out of the YA genre， I don't know。 I don't want to give up on it。 。。。more

feux d'artifice ，

THE WAY I SOBBED THROUGH THIS BOOK！！！！！！！！！！！

Christian LaFreniere ，

I'm dying。 You are all the poems I have read。 You are in my heart。 I'm dying。 You are all the poems I have read。 You are in my heart。 。。。more

Sandra ，

High hopes。 I had High Hopes。 I’m sad to say that this book was a great disappointment。 I wanted to read this book after listening to the author speak about his first book， which I read， and a little about this book sitting in a place where he needed to continue with Ari and Dante’s story。 However， the author does a disservice to both boys with all the other sexual orientation phobias。 I just couldn’t finish this book。 I know there was a bit in the first book， but I didn’t let it bother me becau High hopes。 I had High Hopes。 I’m sad to say that this book was a great disappointment。 I wanted to read this book after listening to the author speak about his first book， which I read， and a little about this book sitting in a place where he needed to continue with Ari and Dante’s story。 However， the author does a disservice to both boys with all the other sexual orientation phobias。 I just couldn’t finish this book。 I know there was a bit in the first book， but I didn’t let it bother me because the boys where still figuring out how to “navigate” their attraction and how they would love in a world that didn’t accept them。This book， I’m not so forgiving。 Let’s be honest here， it’s the 1980s — sexual orientation wasn’t understood by the majority of people as it is now。 So， many people who were dealing with living out of the closet held together so that they could feel love， acceptance and most of all a way to deal with living。 This book destroys all of that camaraderie between marginalized people。 It’s as if the author is looking back at the 80s when it comes to sexual orientation and making it one marginalized orientation vs another。 Which it wasn’t。 I was a high schooler too in the 80s。 My mother died of AIDS。 This book sadly destroyed what could’ve been a great sequel。 The first book， Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe was lyrical， this book had a lackluster dialogue that painfully sounded more like trying to tell the story as a child， than as a Young Adult entering manhood。 I DNF’d Aristotle and Dante Dive into the Waters of the World which is sad as the first book was a much needed voice for Young Adults fighting the same feeling as Dante and Ari。 Thank you E+， and Simon and Schuster for the opportunity to read and review this book in exchange for my honest review。 。。。more

S。 Smyth ，

This book was quite the ride。 It started out so sweet and innocent and happy and I was absolutely IN LOVE since the first page！But then， unsurprisingly， it got sadder and sadder。 Of course， it still had it’s adorable little moments， and the parts that made me laugh out loud， but it did definitely get sadder。 Then we hit the “shocking loss” and I had guessed what would happen， but I was still a lot sadder than I thought I would be。 Though， very far towards the end was when I almost cried （I will This book was quite the ride。 It started out so sweet and innocent and happy and I was absolutely IN LOVE since the first page！But then， unsurprisingly， it got sadder and sadder。 Of course， it still had it’s adorable little moments， and the parts that made me laugh out loud， but it did definitely get sadder。 Then we hit the “shocking loss” and I had guessed what would happen， but I was still a lot sadder than I thought I would be。 Though， very far towards the end was when I almost cried （I will not say why for spoiler-free purposes） But besides that， this book was so extremely well-written and lyrical！ Every single chapter there’s this one amazingly inspiring sentence that really makes you THINK！And then the ending- it was so AMAZING！ I adored the ending！ It made me so happy and resolved everything and I loved it so much！Overall， I was so sad to finish this book and didn’t want it to end， but I guess when things end they make you appreciate them while you have them！ I recommend this book to EVERYONE。 EVERYONE， I TELL YOU！ I adore it and I’m sure that you will too！HAPPY READING， FELLOW BOOK DRAGONS！ （#wearenotbookworms） 。。。more

raeann hedrick ，

ari and dante are EVERYTHING i cannot get enough

LeAnn ，

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers。 To view it， click here。 So， so， so disappointing。 I loved the first book and when I heard there was a sequel my first thought was， why？ No sequel was needed。 I read it， of course， because… Benjamin Alire Saenz。 His words are beautiful but the story was disappointing and， I felt， manipulative。 Trying to grow up in the 80s was enough to deal with， without having Aristotle’s dad die。 I listened to the audiobook and I felt like I skipped a chapter or something when， randomly， they were going to Rico’s funeral。 What？！？ when So， so， so disappointing。 I loved the first book and when I heard there was a sequel my first thought was， why？ No sequel was needed。 I read it， of course， because… Benjamin Alire Saenz。 His words are beautiful but the story was disappointing and， I felt， manipulative。 Trying to grow up in the 80s was enough to deal with， without having Aristotle’s dad die。 I listened to the audiobook and I felt like I skipped a chapter or something when， randomly， they were going to Rico’s funeral。 What？！？ when did that happen， and how？ If you wanted to make people cry， instead of killing off Aristotle’s dad， expand Rico’s story and show us how that death affected everyone。The ending was just ridiculous。 I really wish I hadn’t read it。 。。。more

Lavanya ，

I can't express in words how much this book meant to me。 This book is the definition of hope in a book form， and I am so grateful to the author for letting me stay in this beautiful universe of Ari and Dante for some more time！The familial bonds and the friendships in the book were the most intricate and deeply explored I've ever read。 The different kinds of love that radiate from every single page of this book will make you feel glad that you're alive and for the people that you love。This book I can't express in words how much this book meant to me。 This book is the definition of hope in a book form， and I am so grateful to the author for letting me stay in this beautiful universe of Ari and Dante for some more time！The familial bonds and the friendships in the book were the most intricate and deeply explored I've ever read。 The different kinds of love that radiate from every single page of this book will make you feel glad that you're alive and for the people that you love。This book cannot be rated for me genuinely， considering how much I needed this rn and how up and beyond it delivered。 This book has healing powers truly！ So grateful for being able to read it！ 。。。more

Claerysa ，

😭😭😭 I‘m not ready to say goodbye to Ari and Dante I thought that perhaps after all this time between the first and the second book Saenz would‘ve maybe changed his style of writing and I was scared but he still captures words the way he did before and I still love it。„I heard your pain last night。“ „I heard yours“ she said I don’t know why， but we smiled at each other。 （Seite 407）

ana ，

3。5 — cute ighalf of the chapters were def fillers。。 so it did get boring from time to time 😬😬 it only got interesting in like the last quarter。。loved Cassandra as a new character 🙏🙏 a bestie fr 🤞 but why were they crying every other paragraph。。 pleekv easy read cuz chapters are short 🤲 also liked the open ending so u don't know what will happen in college 🙏 （hope there isn't a 3rd book tho cuz even this one was unnecessary） 3。5 — cute ighalf of the chapters were def fillers。。 so it did get boring from time to time 😬😬 it only got interesting in like the last quarter。。loved Cassandra as a new character 🙏🙏 a bestie fr 🤞 but why were they crying every other paragraph。。 pleekv easy read cuz chapters are short 🤲 also liked the open ending so u don't know what will happen in college 🙏 （hope there isn't a 3rd book tho cuz even this one was unnecessary） 。。。more

Tony ，

This is a 2。5。 There are some beautiful things in here and some things that make absolutely no sense。

Jacqueline Gurliaccio ，

This sequel to the beloved novel， Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe， moves the characters forward into the next step in finding themselves。 Ari becomes a more outspoken advocate for himself and others in a time period where his voice his desperately needed。 Sáenz writes with authenticity and a true feeling for the time period and the world that Ari and Dante inhabit。 It is a beautiful sequel to a favorite book。

Julieta ，

"Life， Ari， can be an ugly thing。 But life can be so incredibly beautiful。 It’s both。 And we have to learn to hold the contradictions inside us without despairing， without losing our hope。" "Life， Ari， can be an ugly thing。 But life can be so incredibly beautiful。 It’s both。 And we have to learn to hold the contradictions inside us without despairing， without losing our hope。" 。。。more

ella ♡ ，

dnf @ 50%

Len ，

Aristotle and Dante。。。are the giant， huge disappointment of my reading year！I can never seem to abandon a book unfinished， no matter how little I'm enjoying it - but I would say this was the closest I've ever come。 （Still， I finished。。。I know， maxine b， don't smack me！）I read Ari & Dante #1 in the summer and I quite enjoyed it。 I reviewed it with 4 stars and called it "too damn sweet"。How did the same author go so very， very wrong？？I can't think of a single thing I liked about this terribly writ Aristotle and Dante。。。are the giant， huge disappointment of my reading year！I can never seem to abandon a book unfinished， no matter how little I'm enjoying it - but I would say this was the closest I've ever come。 （Still， I finished。。。I know， maxine b， don't smack me！）I read Ari & Dante #1 in the summer and I quite enjoyed it。 I reviewed it with 4 stars and called it "too damn sweet"。How did the same author go so very， very wrong？？I can't think of a single thing I liked about this terribly written sequel。I can， however， tell you what I hated， and why you should completely avoid this book:It is ridiculous， repetitive， annoying， and laden with schmaltz-heavy declarations by each of its characters。At its core is a cringe-inducing， endlessly self-loathing young queer man， and when I say endlessly self-loathing， I mean it。 Every。 Single。 Page。 I do not want him in or anywhere near the canon of LGBT lit。This is wrapped around 17-year-olds speaking and acting like 12-year-olds （and I know this to be true， because given the timeline of the novel， I would have been almost exactly the same age at the same time of the novel's setting and I didn't， nor did anyone I knew， speak or act like this！）A prime example of this: 17-year-old boys who yearn to "make love"？？ Who tell each other they are "the air that I breathe in， the words inside me"？？ Who declare their undying love and devotion to each other in every chapter？？ Really？ Was the author ever 17 years old？Characters main and subsidiary who cry。 A lot。 Like， daily。A very superficial examination of the AIDS crisis of the late '80s。And did I mention an endlessly self-loathing queer teen？If you've bought Ari and Dante #2 and haven't read it yet， return it to your bookstore。If you've downloaded it to an e-reader， delete it。What a sad way for an author to trash the memory of what was a lovely first novel - Ari & Dante would have been far better served as a standalone single adventure。This book is one of the biggest， loudest 'SKIP's I can ever advise。 （You can picture me shouting it from rooftops if I wasn't so afraid of heights。）If I had to choose between reading this again and watching paint dry， I would pull up a comfy chair and hand you a brush and a bucket of white paint。 。。。more

Yelizaveta ，

3。5

tillie hellman ，

i read aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe when i was what， 13？ it opened a whole new world for me。 i started reading almost exclusively queer fiction after that， because to me it was the most beautiful thing that i had ever read。 now， starting this sequel， i was kinda scared because while i’ve read the first book so many times， it’s drenched in nostalgia and my taste in books and reading abilities have grown so much in four years。 but damn it didn’t disappoint。 it feels so i read aristotle and dante discover the secrets of the universe when i was what， 13？ it opened a whole new world for me。 i started reading almost exclusively queer fiction after that， because to me it was the most beautiful thing that i had ever read。 now， starting this sequel， i was kinda scared because while i’ve read the first book so many times， it’s drenched in nostalgia and my taste in books and reading abilities have grown so much in four years。 but damn it didn’t disappoint。 it feels so weird that four years later the characters are starting off in the exact same place， and now they are my age， but was also really cool。 i felt closer to them， and hope for myself。 it’s also just a goddamn gorgeous book。 it’s just so poetic and full of love。 i looove books that have strong family dynamics and strong friendships and this book really covered that。 it also made me realize i’ve been basing some of my writing off of the authors style， which is like a woah moment。 anyways， it’s beautiful and surpassed my hopes and dreams for a sequel。 made me cry， but made me very happy 。。。more

Warren Rochelle ，

This novel is a worthy sequel to Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe。 At the end of Universe， they have kissed， they are in love。 Ari has fought his demons， and wonders how he could have ever thought loving Dante was shameful。Now， how to stay in love， how to build a relationship in a "world that seems to challenge their very existence？" For Ari， this love is transformative。 He finds he can longer truly be the loner， "silent and invisible，" a role which has protected him for This novel is a worthy sequel to Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe。 At the end of Universe， they have kissed， they are in love。 Ari has fought his demons， and wonders how he could have ever thought loving Dante was shameful。Now， how to stay in love， how to build a relationship in a "world that seems to challenge their very existence？" For Ari， this love is transformative。 He finds he can longer truly be the loner， "silent and invisible，" a role which has protected him for his high school years。 He has new friends， he stands up for bullies， he is no longer silent。 And always， Dante。Their love will be tested。 Can it survive an often hostile culture？ Can it survive loss？ A beautiful novel， as lyrically beautiful as its prequel， a testament to love and hope。Recommended。 。。。more

Kyrié Erfle ，

Oh my goodness。。。。 Such a beautiful bittersweet sequel to Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe。。。 A lot of ups and downs and a whole lot more love。 I devoured this book and was sad when it was over。 If you loved the first book， I don't think you'll be disappointed with this one。 Oh my goodness。。。。 Such a beautiful bittersweet sequel to Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe。。。 A lot of ups and downs and a whole lot more love。 I devoured this book and was sad when it was over。 If you loved the first book， I don't think you'll be disappointed with this one。 。。。more

Susan ，

For a lot of readers， Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe was one of those amazing， life-changing books that rock your world。 Personally， I liked it but didn't quite understand what the fuss was about。 So the stakes were much lower for me with this sequel， and I didn't have expectations of a transformational reading experience。Which was good。 Because I thought the book was。。。。。fine。 Saenz does a good job of portraying the experience of being a teenaged boy coming out as gay For a lot of readers， Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe was one of those amazing， life-changing books that rock your world。 Personally， I liked it but didn't quite understand what the fuss was about。 So the stakes were much lower for me with this sequel， and I didn't have expectations of a transformational reading experience。Which was good。 Because I thought the book was。。。。。fine。 Saenz does a good job of portraying the experience of being a teenaged boy coming out as gay at the height of the AIDS epidemic。 There were no "it gets better" videos， just the knowledge that gay men were dying and a lot of people thought it was a just punishment for their "perverted" behavior。 Ari realizes he is fortunate to have parents who are 100% supportive and loving， and Dante is similarly blessed， but they quickly become aware of the unfairness of not being able to hold hands in public， and they worry about what awaits them outside their family bubbles。 But other than that， I was underwhelmed and somewhat annoyed。 The book was too long and filled with Ari's Deep Thoughts that were both unlikely for a 17 year old boy and highly cliched。 Ari and Dante make love for the first time， and Ari begins to surround himself with friends after years of being a loner， but it doesn't feel substantial enough to build a 500 page book around。 There is a tragedy late in the book that lands like a gut punch， and the question of what "Ari and Dante" will mean once the boys leave for colleges in separate states looms large， but you have to wade through a lot of long speeches and rambling diary entries to get there。 I did not come away from the first book in the series believing that the boys were the OTP or #relationshipgoals， but those readers who embraced them fully will likely be more charitable in their ratings。 。。。more

wylan ，

first thought:cái kết chưa thoả mãn lắm， thg dante nó đưa ra quyết đinhj khùm điên r thằng ari nó sang paris tìm xong kiểu 2 đứa đứng cạnh nhau r tự làm hoà， k phải làm hoà ý là kiểu hmmmmm

Emmanuel ，

😟😟😟😟

Octover ，

It feels like an absolute privilege to have been able to watch Ari grow up。 When I first read Aristotle and Dante discover the secrets of the universe I was one year older than 15 year old Ari， and I am now two years older than 17 year old Ari。 I think about Ari and Dante often， and I think about the story and quotes which make them who they are。 Ari has been a quiet background character in my mind as I’ve grown older， and I know that he will always be a part of me in some way or another。 What a It feels like an absolute privilege to have been able to watch Ari grow up。 When I first read Aristotle and Dante discover the secrets of the universe I was one year older than 15 year old Ari， and I am now two years older than 17 year old Ari。 I think about Ari and Dante often， and I think about the story and quotes which make them who they are。 Ari has been a quiet background character in my mind as I’ve grown older， and I know that he will always be a part of me in some way or another。 What a time。 。。。more

Mairéad ，

e-Arc provided by Simon & Schuster UK via Net Galley for Review。 All thoughts are my own。 My thanks to Simon & Schuster UK for providing me with the arc for review。 It is worth noting I also have a physical copy of this book that I had pre-ordered， and I ended up reading my physical pre-order rather than my e-Arc。PlotThis book picks up immediately after the events of Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe， Aristotle and Dante are now together， and going into their final year of e-Arc provided by Simon & Schuster UK via Net Galley for Review。 All thoughts are my own。 My thanks to Simon & Schuster UK for providing me with the arc for review。 It is worth noting I also have a physical copy of this book that I had pre-ordered， and I ended up reading my physical pre-order rather than my e-Arc。PlotThis book picks up immediately after the events of Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe， Aristotle and Dante are now together， and going into their final year of high school。 The book follows their relationships with each other， their families and friends throughout the summer and their final year of school。 The book is set in the late 1980s。 The AIDs pandemic and general homophobia associated with the time period are discussed throughout the book。ThoughtsAfter reading Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe for the first time last year， I was excited to pick up the sequel。 The books have a similar writing style， which focused heavily on dialogue with lots of short chapters。 There are some chapters which are only a couple of pages long， and all dialogue。 All the characters have such a distinctive voice that it is easy to tell who is talking when， which is a credit to the writer and his style。I， again， loved the family dynamics featured in the book。 Aristotle is are main perspective character， and his relationships with his family only grow and develop in this book。 We also see him grow closer to Dante's family and his thoughts on them。 It is interesting to read about both families， who have a lot in common but are so different。Overall， I really enjoyed the book。 While I don't think Aristotle and Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe needed a sequel， I don't think this book takes away from the story in book 1， but just expands upon it。Representation- LGBT: Male/Male main relationship， both boys identify as Gay。- BIPOC: Main characters are Mexican-American 。。。more

claire ，

the authors dog was named chuy？？ this is so cute。 love love love this book， love ari and dante and the mendoza family and the quintana family and gina and susie and chuy and cassandra and almost every character in this book because the writer is so talented and everyone is so humane and lovely and every feeling and thought and human part of life is encaptured so magnificently。 it’s so overwhelming and peaceful and lovely。 official review to come but i’m just so in love with this and any praise w the authors dog was named chuy？？ this is so cute。 love love love this book， love ari and dante and the mendoza family and the quintana family and gina and susie and chuy and cassandra and almost every character in this book because the writer is so talented and everyone is so humane and lovely and every feeling and thought and human part of life is encaptured so magnificently。 it’s so overwhelming and peaceful and lovely。 official review to come but i’m just so in love with this and any praise would be an understatement。 。。。more

Novie ，

I absolutely adore this book！ I had high expectations and they were met！ I didn’t think I could love Aristotle even more than I already did but this book just proved me wrong。 I’m not sure why， but this book makes me feel like a little kid again。

wylan ，

i cried my eyes out while reading this and i feel so empty now that i finished it i never want to read again

Ari ，

hmm idk

Peter Monn ，

A perfect sequel！